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Alstom的动力分散式高速列车

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发表于 2004-9-6 19:38:47 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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有谁知道这种列车的情况?
发表于 2004-9-6 19:54:58 | 显示全部楼层

Alstom的动力分散式高速列车

AGV?
 楼主| 发表于 2004-9-6 20:02:31 | 显示全部楼层

Alstom的动力分散式高速列车

好像是的
 楼主| 发表于 2004-9-6 20:04:02 | 显示全部楼层

Alstom的动力分散式高速列车

Alstom in cooperation with French National Railways (SNCF) is developing a new design of TGV called AGV. It will be the first articulated high-speed train with distributed traction rather than power cars at each end. Prototype AGV cars are under construction and should be ready to start testing in March 2001.

THERE are a number of reasons why Alstom is keen to develop the AGV, which stands for Automotrice à Grande Vitesse. It perceives a commercial need to increase the maximum speed of TGV from 300 to 350km/h but with the same operating performance and cost as a 300km/h train. Advances in technology now make this possible. AGV will have 9% more capacity within the same length of train (200m) than a conventional TGV.
AGV will combine the best elements of TGV and things such as eddy current brakes developed for the former TGV New Generation project, and introduce distributed traction. This would enable Alstom to meet the recently-announced aspirations of the president of French National Railways (SNCF) and the chairman of German Rail (DB) to draw up jointly specifications for the next generation of high-speed trains to reduce development and procurement costs (IRJ February p3). Alstom is keen for AGV to be a contender for the new TGV Est Européen project.
Alstom will bid for the contract to supply between 26 and 40 trains to Spanish National Railways (Renfe) for the new Madrid--Barcelona high-speed line. "Renfe would like to achieve a 2h 15min journey time for the 651km Madrid--Barcelona trip to compete effectively with air," Mr Georges Palais, Alstom';s high speed product manager, told IRJ in Paris. "We could achieve this with 350km/h operation, with an allowance for recovery time."
The key element from TGV which will be retained in AGV is the articulation and the articulated bogies, as Palais explained. "The goal is to conserve the articulation because of its excellent ride characteristics and good safety record." The articulation performed well in two derailments involving TGVs. The trains remained upright and in alignment with track.
Distributed power high-speed trains are not new. The Japanese Shinkansen family of trains has always had distributed power, as has the Italian Pendolino, and now ICE 3, the latest generation of German high-speed train. However, as Palais pointed out, "it has only recently become possible to marry distributed power with articulation while keeping within the 17 tonne axleload restriction, which is the European standard." This is thanks to the advent of new power semi-conductors of the IGBT type. "The potential gains in mass resulting from this type of component now mean that it is possible to design an articulated train capable of operating at speeds in excess of 320km/h," Palais said. AGV will therefore have Alstom';s Onix IGBT traction system. However, technology has not advanced enough yet to allow a double-deck AGV.
AGV train configurations will be based on a module of three coaches with two powered bogies (each axle driven by a 600kW asynchronous motor) and a trailer bogie. This makes it possible to produce various formations which each have virtually the same traction and braking performance. Thanks to the variable sizes of traction equipment, it is possible to add non-powered trailer coaches to permit seven, 10, and 14-car trains. There will be only two types of coach: one with a driver';s cab and an intermediate coach.
The result is that a 200m-long 10-car AGV will have only 11 bogies compared with 13 on a 10-car TGV Réseau set (two power cars and eight trailers), which should reduce rolling noise. AGV will seat 411 passengers compared with only 377 in a TGV Réseau, so the cost per seat should be less with AGV.
AGV represents a number of technical challenges. As Palais was quick to point out: "It would be unthinkable to increase the operating speed while at the same time reducing the level of dynamic comfort in the trains or imposing additional stresses requiring increased track maintenance. Any increases in speed must be achieved while offering the same level of comfort as that obtained with TGVs running at 300km/h on the same quality of track."
Alstom has therefore developed an active lateral suspension system, which will be fitted to each trailer bogie, to stabilise the coach laterally in relation to the movement of the bogie on the track. An electric actuator will maintain the coach body virtually within the axis of the bogie thereby avoiding contact with the stops. This re-centring will make it possible to soften the secondary suspension which should increase comfort during alignment. The electric actuators will be controlled to stabilise low and medium frequency lateral movements of the car body in relation to the bogies. In addition, the level of comfort does not vary according to the position of the coach in the train.
Alstom has fitted active lateral suspension and electric actuators to a TGV Réseau and tested it at 350km/h on the Lille--Calais section of TGV Nord Europe. The dynamic comfort at 350km/h matched that of a non-equipped train at 300km/h. Another set of tests will be conducted next month with a modified design of actuator.
Another key challenge is to brake a train from 350km/h effectively and economically without increasing the braking distance, which would reduce line capacity. Two motor bogies equipped with eddy current brakes were fitted to a TGV and tested by Alstom and SNCF at up to 350km/h. Eddy current brakes are able to produce an emergency braking effort of 20kN per bogie between 350 and 200km/h. Braking power is reduced to 10kN under normal braking conditions. On a line with 3-minute headways, these power levels are acceptable both in terms of heating the rails, and the vertical effort generated by the magnetic pull. Endurance tests were conducted in 1998, which proved the system. "We consider that this brake development is now finished," Palais told IRJ. The first and last bogies on a 350km/h AGV will have eddy current brakes.
As the traction motors on AGV will be suspended from the bodyshell directly beneath the passenger accommodation, this could lead to increased vibrations. "We have defined a silent block between the traction motor and the bodyshell which will eliminate the vibrations inside the vehicle," Palais explained.
Having a powered articulated bogie makes it difficult to use forced air cooling, so the motors will have a self-cooling system with a fan inside the motor. To solve the problem of dust ingress, a vortex will separate out the large particles.
The end cars on AGV will have the heaviest components, such as the 6.5-tonne transformer, to improve their stability at high speed. "AGV will have a lower centre of gravity on the leading coach than a TGV power car," Palais remarked. The end coaches will have three axles so the 17-tonne axleload will not be compromised.
AGV will utilise the same aluminium bodyshell technique developed for TGV Duplex. This will save 2 tonnes compared with a steel TGV bodyshell. The only major steel elements will be the inter-car gangways and the cabs. AGV will have the same crashworthiness as TGV Duplex and will be able to absorb up to 6MJ of energy.
Alstom recognises that operators now expect to refurbish the interiors of their trains more frequently than in the past, for example at five to seven year intervals. Alstom has developed a modular concept for the interior fittings that can be applied to all high-speed trains depending on the length of journey. Passenger areas are divided into zones with common mechanical and electrical interfaces. Zones include:
•toilet and baby changing areas
•information centre and conductor';s compartment
•office and conference room
•bar and at-seat meal service, and
•flexible areas so that the seating layout can be changed.
AGV will have a level floor throughout, unlike TGV where the floor rises over the articulated area. AGV will have wide doors to ease passenger flows.
Alstom is currently building two AGV prototype coaches fitted with AGV trailer and motor bogies. One coach will have a driver';s cab and the other will be an intermediate car. The two prototypes will be attached to four TGV Réseau coaches and a power car (taken from a set damaged in an accident) to form a test train. "This will enable us to test the dynamic performance of the train, the performance of the pantograph in relation to the articulated bogie, the behaviour of the motor bogie, and test the air cooling of the traction system," Palais explained.
While SNCF and Alstom have now moved on to the development of AGV, testing with the tilting TGV prototype is continuing, and a tilting version of AGV with a maximum speed of 320km/h is envisaged. "French regions such as Brittany and Limousin are interested in the tilting TGV," Palais explained. "This was why a demonstration was organised in these regions last month of the tilting TGV prototype equipped with electrical actuators and our command control system."
发表于 2004-9-6 20:58:00 | 显示全部楼层

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下面引用由物有本末2004/09/06 08:04pm 发表的内容:
Alstom in cooperation with French National Railways (SNCF) is developing a new design of TGV called AGV. It will be the first articulated high-speed train with distributed traction rather than pow ...
Alstom目前同法国国铁共同开发的新型TGV被命名为AGV,该车将是第一列动力分散铰接式高速列车,而不是两端动车的结构.AGV原型车目前正在制造中,预计将于2001年三月投入试验.
作为ALSTOM开发AGV的原因之一,使现有的TGV速度提升到350KM并使其仍然具有300KM级别的TGV的操控性和低成本被视为一种商业需求.技术的进步使之变成了现实.AGV将比同等长度的TGV增加9%的运能.
AGV综合了目前TGV的优点和为之前新一代TGV计划所开发的诸如涡流电阻制动等先进技术.并且采用了先进的分散动力.这样一来就使Alstom可以满足最近法国国铁总裁和德国铁道的主席共同发表的为下一代高速列车所制订的联合规范.以用来降低开发和采购成本.Alstom 希望AGV可以成为Est Européen项目的有力竞争者.
Alstom将会参加西班牙国家铁路(Renfe)的新马德里-巴塞罗那高速铁路的投标,该项目包括26至40列新型列车."Renfe的目标是将马德里至巴塞罗那之间651公里的路程旅行时间控制在两小时15分钟以内,以能够有效的同航空竞争."ALSTOM的高速项目经理Mr Georges Palais在巴黎接受IRJ采访时说"350KM的时速将能满足该需求."
TGV的铰接特性将被保留下来,因为它出色的安全性
分散动力高速列车并不是第一次出现,日本新干线列车经常采用分散动力,以及Pendolino和德国最新一代ICE3.因此正如Palais所指出的,"分散动力和铰接车体最近才开始在欧洲标准的17轴车体内共同出现."
发表于 2004-9-6 21:21:06 | 显示全部楼层

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还有图么?
发表于 2004-9-7 08:40:12 | 显示全部楼层

Alstom的动力分散式高速列车

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发表于 2004-9-7 13:49:56 | 显示全部楼层

Alstom的动力分散式高速列车

看起来真是超现代感啊!
发表于 2004-9-7 14:46:29 | 显示全部楼层

Alstom的动力分散式高速列车

为什么欧洲的列车车身都比较窄?还是比较喜欢新干线700系的宽体车身!
发表于 2004-9-7 15:04:23 | 显示全部楼层

Alstom的动力分散式高速列车

恐怕主要还是客流不多,不需要宽体.新干线车宽一般是3.3m,普通舱每排5座,相当于国内的软座车;还有不对号入座的车,每排6座,跟国内硬座差不多.中华之星这方面指标跟新干线是一致的.
下面引用由woshiab2004/09/07 02:46pm 发表的内容:
为什么欧洲的列车车身都比较窄?还是比较喜欢新干线700系的宽体车身!
发表于 2004-9-7 17:45:43 | 显示全部楼层

Alstom的动力分散式高速列车

好车啊!
发表于 2004-9-7 18:12:55 | 显示全部楼层

Alstom的动力分散式高速列车

好就是好,
但難看~
发表于 2004-9-7 20:07:57 | 显示全部楼层

Alstom的动力分散式高速列车

感觉流线型程度不够——感觉上短了一点,当然,也可以解释成法国的隧道净空面积够大且够少。定员好像也少了点。
 楼主| 发表于 2004-9-7 20:29:05 | 显示全部楼层

Alstom的动力分散式高速列车

好像有几张照片是巴黎北站(Gare du Nord)
但我在北站从来没有看过这种列车,难道目前阿尔斯通的动力分散技术还不成熟?
发表于 2004-9-9 09:26:12 | 显示全部楼层

Alstom的动力分散式高速列车

请问楼主,这是长客的引进车型吗?
发表于 2004-9-9 16:40:18 | 显示全部楼层

Alstom的动力分散式高速列车

这种350km/h级别的车现在还用不着来中国。
发表于 2004-9-9 21:40:01 | 显示全部楼层

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下面引用由hakutaka2004/09/07 08:07pm 发表的内容:
感觉流线型程度不够——感觉上短了一点,当然,也可以解释成法国的隧道净空面积够大且够少。定员好像也少了点。
说到流线型程度,欧洲的高速列车和日本的有一个最大的区别就是:欧洲车子都有着自己一贯的外观风格,TGV从PSE到AGV,甚至包括出口的KTX和AVE,让人一看头车就知道肯定是TGV。ICE也是一样,从I到III,甚至包括磁悬浮TR-08,怎么看都是DB的风格。不像日本,一个系列的车子就是一种外观(这在某些程度上和国内造的动车组有点儿像)。所以这在一定程度上,也限制了欧洲车型的流线型发展。另外,欧洲没有像日本那样苛求隧道的小净空断面,所以也就没有把过多的精力放在车体流线型上。
至于定员嘛,假如非要采用新干线的标准来衡量,TGV系列的每列车定员肯定是少的。TGV系列是铰接车,车体较短,加上限界比新干线窄不少,所以定员当然会少些了。
发表于 2004-9-10 22:16:51 | 显示全部楼层

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因为日本随着速度提高加上隧道是定死的——而且净空小所以车头越来越“奇特”。不过在山区这样的思路总体拥有成本未必高(当然不是指日本那么过分)。假如换成宝成(成昆,南昆)高速的话可能就明显了。至于定员,如果挪到中国还是那么少或者说没有达到新干线水平显然不合适中国的情况,票价也不容易下来。从日本的票价就可以看出,新干线几乎和既有线特快是平齐的(按照消费心理换算)。
发表于 2004-9-10 23:25:01 | 显示全部楼层

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不好看!!太窄啦!!正面特难看!!
而且感觉做工远没有新干线精致!!还是觉得新干线的细微处处理得很好!!
跟新干线500系差远了!!
发表于 2004-9-11 13:02:18 | 显示全部楼层

Alstom的动力分散式高速列车

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